Today we're looking at the new … or not-so-new Ryzen 7 5700G. This CPU was released in April, but only for use in OEM systems. Then AMD said last month that they would hit the general market along with the 5600G in August next month.
We've been trying to get one of these APUs for a while, but it wasn't that easy in Australia. Then a couple of weeks ago we found an HP Pavilion desktop PC that came with the 5700G, so we grabbed one to see what the chip could do. Other reviewers have already tested it as the chip was easier to find in other regions, but considering we are 3 weeks away from the retail version, we might as well test it. We pulled the 5700G out of the HP system, built it into our AM4 test system, and it's our turn.
But before we start testing, let's briefly discuss what the 5700G and 5600G are all about.
The Ryzen 7 5700G is an 8-core, 16-thread processor with AMD's Zen 3 architecture that clocks at up to 4.6 GHz with 16 MB L3 cache and 65 W TDP. What distinguishes this chip from other parts of the Ryzen 5000 series, however, is the integrated graphics, but unfortunately it is not RDNA2 or even RDNA graphics, but Vega with 8 processing units clocked at 2 GHz.
This is the same Cezanne die that AMD uses for Ryzen Mobile APUs like the Ryzen 9 5900HX, and that means it is a monolithic die rather than a chiplet-based one. As a result, along with the fact that AMD needs to squeeze the Vega-8 GPU in, half of the L3 cache has been removed, reducing the 5700G to 16MB. That will likely have a pretty negative impact on performance compared to a part like the 5800X.
|Ryzen 9 5900X||Ryzen 7 5800X||Ryzen 5 5600X||Ryzen 7 5700G||Ryzen 5 5600G|
|publication||5th November 2020||April 13, 2021|
|MSRP $||$ 550||$ 450||$ 300||$ 360||$ 260|
|Cores / threads||12/24||8/16||6/12||8/16||6/12|
|iGPU||N / A||512: 32: 8
|448: 28: 8
|3.7 GHz||3.8 GHz||3.7 GHz||3.8 GHz||3.9 GHz|
|4.8 GHz||4.7 GHz||4.6 GHz||4.6 GHz||4.4 GHz|
|L3 cache||64 MB||32 MB per CCD||32 MB||32 MB||16 MB|
|TDP||105 watts||65 watts|
The smaller Ryzen 5 5600G is a 6-core model with a clock rate of up to 4.4 GHz, the GPU was also based on only 7 Vega computing units with a clock rate of up to 1.9 GHz and the same 16 MB L3- Cache downgraded.
AMD positions these processors as cheaper Zen 3 alternatives to the current X models without integrated graphics that have been on the market for months. The company has recognized the demand for non-X CPUs and apparently these parts are designed to fill that void.
Unfortunately, however, these aren't the budget-friendly CPUs that many have been hoping for. The Ryzen 5 5600G is $ 260 – just $ 40 less than the Ryzen 5 5600X – rather than the $ 200-220 that many people had hoped a Ryzen 5 5600 would fit.
In the meantime, the Ryzen 7 5700G will be priced between 5600X and 5800X, which is not what we would have liked, especially given the huge reduction in L3 cache and the unfortunate decline in PCIe 4.0 support in favor of the legacy PCIe 3.0 standard.
To test this APU, we have divided ourselves into three sections. First we will only look at the CPU performance, but will test the 5700G in applications with an RTX 2080 Ti so that I can compare it with the rest of the CPU data. Then I want to see how well it works with the Vega iGPU and for that I compare it to the Ryzen 5 3400G and the Core i7-11700 with integrated graphics as well as some discrete graphics cards that were tested on the 5600X.
Finally, we also ran a series of discrete GPU tests on the GeForce RTX 3090 to compare the 5700G to a number of other CPUs with a powerful graphics card. That should be interesting and give us a good idea of what kind of headroom these APU gamers can get should they catch up with. So let's get to that …
Starting with Cinebench R20 Multi-Core, we see that the Ryzen 7 5700G is good for a score of 5432 points, which is pretty good, although it is slower than the 5800X and 11900K, about 10% behind.
It was about 9% faster than the 10700K, so there is, but it seems that the lack of L3 cache affects performance as the core count is the same as the 5800X and the clock speed is pretty much the same.
If you look at the single-core performance, the 5700G is slower than the 5600X, although the single-thread performance is only reduced by 3% core performance.
The 7-Zip compression performance is only slightly better than the Core i7-10700K and therefore not much better than the 6-core 5600X or the older 8-core 3700X. The performance is respectable, but not exactly what you'd expect from an 8-core Zen 3 processor.
Compression performance looks a bit better and here the 5700G was 9% slower than the 5800X which is not bad and it managed to outperform the 11900K, so a good result compared to Intel.
As can be seen in the Cinebench R20 single-thread test, the 5700G is slower than the 5600X and is therefore 10% behind the 6-core Zen 3 processor in the test with Adobe After Effects. In fact, we're only looking at performance here, which roughly corresponds to a Core i5-11400F or Ryzen 7 3700X.
It's similar in Adobe Photoshop, the 5700G can only keep up with the Core i5-11400F, making it 12% slower than the 5800X and 5% slower than the 5600X.
Then we have Premiere Pro 2020 and here the 5700G was 11% slower than the 5800X as it was delivering 3700X / 10700K-like performance and that made it a 6 core Zen 3 processor rather than an 8 Core model.
Blender is the final application benchmark and here the 5700G was 8% slower than the 5800X, but almost 20% faster than the 5600X, so a reasonable result.
We've seen the 5700G deliver similar performance to 3700X many times, and it's similar in terms of power consumption too. That said, it also corresponds to the 10600K. We expect a 15% reduction in overall system usage compared to the 5800X, so overall good efficiency of this 8-core APU.
Integrated graphics test
Time for some built-in graphics tests. For this data we use the Vega-8 graphics of the 5700G, together with the iGPU in the 3400G and 11700. For comparison we also have the versions Radeon RX 550, GeForce GTX 1060 3GB and 6GB as well as the Radeon RX. added 5500 XT, all of which were tested with the Ryzen 5 5600X.
For a modern and demanding title like Assassin's Creed Valhalla, the Vega graphics on the 5700G are simply not powerful enough, at least if you want a better than 30 fps experience. When playing at 1080p on the lowest quality settings, the 5700G was only good for 33 fps on average. The only remaining option is to shut down to 720p and at this point things get very desperate.
All in all, the 5700G was 32% faster than the 3400G and … well, a lot faster than the Core i7-11700, making it a better solution than any of the Intel desktop LGA1200 processors when it comes to gaming with the iGPU.
Compared to discrete graphics cards, we're looking at a Radeon RX 550 / GeForce GT 1030-like performance, so any reasonably decent modern graphics card is miles faster. Take, for example, the Radeon RX 5500 XT, which spat out an average of 88 fps.
The 5700G is more useful in less demanding games like Rainbow Six Siege. Here it was an average of 65 fps with the default setting of medium quality.
With Low it is possible to keep frame rates above 60 fps at all times. This is roughly the performance of the RX 550 and is almost 40% faster than the 3400G, which is a big improvement.
Horizon Zero Dawn like Assassin's Creed Valhalla has been tested at the lowest quality settings at 1080p and it is not possible to get playable performance with the 5700G or any of these iGPUs.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider is a much older high quality AAA title, but it may not achieve playable performance even on the lowest quality settings, depending on what you think is playable. The game is technically playable at 37 fps, but it's not exactly a pleasant experience, at least in my opinion, I'd rather just play an older title in the franchise.
Doom Eternal is playable on the lowest quality settings and the experience wasn't bad as the frame rates stayed above 40 fps. This is actually a big deal for the 5700G as the 32% increase in performance over the 3400G made the game significantly better.
As expected, given what we've seen in other more demanding games, it's not possible to play Death Stranding on the 5700G as the frame rates are around 30 fps. This is a massive improvement over the 3400G, but unfortunately still not very playable.
Dirt 5 is reasonably playable with an average of 39 fps and a 1% low of 33 fps. This was a 22% increase over the 3400G, but not as impressive in terms of gains as what we've seen in other titles.
Biomutant is another new game that you can't run at 1080p on the 5700G, at least not at satisfactory frame rates. Here we see an average of 27 fps and, interestingly, this is significantly lower with the RX 550.
Watch Dogs: Legion cannot be played at 1080p despite the lowest quality settings. Here we only have an average of 28 fps, so the game was not playable.
Outriders using the lowest possible quality settings at 1080p are not playable on the 5700G and, oddly enough, weren't any faster than the 3400G. I suspect this is related to a driver problem and maybe we saw the same thing in Biomutant.
One game you can play comfortably though is Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, here the 5700G averaged 112 fps, which is a 35% increase over the 3400G and catapulted us into the high refresh rate realm, which is pretty impressive . This is more than double what you get with the 11700 or any other 11th generation Core-series processor.
It's worth noting that this performance was achieved with the medium quality settings, so you can increase the frame rates by lowering them to low if necessary.
It was also possible to average ~ 60 fps at 1080p on the lowest quality settings in F1 2020, and this 28% increase in performance over the 3400G was very noticeable and resulted in a better gaming experience.
Finally, we have Dota 2, which was tested with the highest quality settings and here the 5700G was good for an average of 73 fps, a 33% increase in performance over the 3400G.
If you turn down the quality settings, you will get significantly more performance in Dota 2, especially since the CPU side is very powerful with the 5700G, allowing 1440p gameplay here.
Gaming benchmarks (dGPU)
To test gaming performance with a discrete graphics card, we decided on the GeForce RTX 3090 and started with F1 2020. Here the 5700G is comparable to Intel's 8-core processor of the previous generation, the Core i7-10700K. Compared to the 5800X, it's 6% slower, which isn't much, but shows that halving the L3 cache has reduced performance.
The 5700G was a bit slower than the 5800X when tested with Rainbow Six Siege, but we're talking about a small margin of 4% and the APU was good for 485 fps, so that's pretty good. That said, as far as 8-core CPUs go, it was slower than 10th and 11th gen core parts and only 7% faster than the 10600K.
Next up we have Horizon Zero Dawn and here the 5700G was 8% slower than the 5800X and delivered a 10600K-like performance averaging 151 fps. This remains a good result by and large, despite being the slowest Zen 3 CPU we've ever seen.
The 5700G struggled a little in Borderlands 3, averaging 151 fps, and mirrored the performance of the 3700X and 3600, which is a bit of a disappointment. It was also slower than the Core i3-10100, Core i7-7700K, and a number of other CPUs, although this isn't a strong title for Ryzen, so the 5700G was only 6% slower than the 5800X.
The scope for the 5800X has been expanded in Watch Dogs Legion. Here the 5700G was 12% slower, rendering 101 fps on average, which in turn meant it was delivering 3700X-like performance, making it slower than 10th generation Core-series 6-core processors.
Death Stranding benefits greatly from the massive L3 cache of the Zen 3 chiplet CPUs, as the 5800X enables 214 fps and is therefore the fastest CPU tested. The 5700G was 15% slower and fell on the i5-11400F range, although it was still 12% faster than the 3700X.
Interestingly, we saw a sharp 20% drop in performance on the 5700G compared to the 5800X, and that meant it averaged just 132 fps and again delivered a performance similar to that of the Ryzen 7 3700X and Core i5-10600K.
In Hitman 2, the 5700G was again much slower than the 5800X, this time 15% behind. This took it down to the Core i5-10600K level, even though it was 8% faster than the 3700X.
When it comes to more CPU-limited gaming with a discrete GPU, the Ryzen 7 5700G isn't amazing, and it seems like cramming all the cores into a single die doesn't help, but cache capacity plays a much more important role Role.
That doesn't mean the performance is bad and it's the best we've seen from an AMD APU so far. The 5700G is a powerful CPU that could compete with the gaming performance of the Core i5-10600K and I think most will agree, this is a pretty great gaming CPU.
Compared to the 3400G, we're seeing a massive 88% increase in gaming performance, even though the new Zen 3-based APU is much more expensive.
If you expected the 5800X to perform, you might be a little disappointed to learn that the 5700G was 11% slower on average. Note, however, that we are using an RTX 3090 at 1080p. So if you're playing at 1440p or higher and a fast but not extreme GPU, there is basically no difference between these two Ryzen 7 processors.
For whom is that?
So the Ryzen 7 5700G does, what should you think of it, because what is this APU for? Who in our audience should be considering buying it? Typical APU recommendations were pretty straightforward, take the Ryzen 5 3400G for example.
At $ 150, it's an affordable processor, and with a cheap motherboard and memory combo, it was possible to put the entry-level platform together for well under $ 400. Such a build was suitable for casual gaming, mostly at 720p, but it could play and was also great for use as a home theater PC.
However, the Ryzen 7 5700G is not suitable for budget builds. At $ 360, it costs roughly the same as the 3400G motherboard and memory combo. So if you are looking for a higher quality home theater PC setup, the 5700G might be suitable depending on your desired configuration. For now, we think the most likely use case is to use the 5700G's built-in graphics as a last-ditch solution, settling for Vega-8 graphics until you can buy a new graphics card at a reasonable price.
If you want to build a new desktop PC now, parts like the Ryzen 7 5800X can land below the RRP, there are also many inexpensive B550 motherboards on the market, 16 GB DDR4-3200 memory is available for well under 100 US dollars and The availability of all other components is very good: housing, power supplies and memory. The only thing stopping you from building a new gaming PC today is the availability and price of the graphics card, so with the 5700G you can, in a sense, build now and upgrade the graphics later.
However, those who focus on gaming performance will find that the 5700G is inferior to the Ryzen 5 5600X and still costs $ 60 more. We're bringing this up because for $ 100 you can land a GeForce GT 1030 on eBay that matches or outperforms the built-in Vega 8 graphics.
And if value is really important to you, you would ignore AMD altogether and go for Intel. The Core i5-10400F is available for just $ 180, which gives a $ 180 budget for the graphics card, and we've seen used 3GB GTX 1060 cards sell for that price over the past few weeks . This gives you 100% more performance and, more importantly, playable frame rates in modern games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla. Once you can buy a more powerful graphics card, the 10400F is the same as the 5700G in dGPU gaming performance anyway, as we've seen in our tests.
The bottom line is that the Ryzen 7 5700G will rarely ever make sense for gamers. This is an expensive Zen 3 part and in my opinion this CPU needs to be closer to $ 300 for it to make sense.
- AMD Ryzen 7 5800X on Amazon
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600X on Amazon
- Intel Core i7-11700 on Amazon
- Intel Core i7-10700K at Amazon
- AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT on Amazon
- AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT on Amazon
- Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 on Amazon
- Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 on Amazon